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To this through the hour, early voting helped him. doesn't win florida, i'm sorry. i have a really hard time. demographics, a., math. take away 29, you're the underdog, hard to get there. b., the democrat graphics. losing a state like florida, it's hard to say you're going to win, say, even north carolina, because of the different constituenci constituencies. that's how it goes. >> elections, state-by-state don't actually happen in a vacuum. a trend in florida, you can expect that trend play up through a state like north carolina. the thing so interesting about donald trump's strategy over the...

How. the question will be begged. hillary clinton this is not a surprised she was going to be in a race against bernie sanders. sanders people will argue with some validity how can she be popular enough to win a general election. the latest poll numbers show sanders doing better, gives him momentum. there was a period in october where biden didn't get in, she got through the benghazi hearing, there was no doubt that was a low point for the sanders campaign. they're back doing very good. >> you said name i'm going to follow up with. harold, it's not a zero sum game. it's not clinton versus sand...

Can be very confusing. very simply it's this, donald trump is being seen nationally several times a day being interviewed by television networks, including our own, getting his own message out, trying to build support for his campaign, so that's why you see his support build and certainly stronger than what we're seeing in iowa, even though he is doing well in iowa. in iowa, the voters in iowa have an opportunity, christi, to meet the dozen or so candidates seeking the nomination and in many cases get to meet them personally, they have more of a familiarity with the other candidates in the rac...

Republican party but i would say quasi anarchistic -- >> if money were the issue then you would have seen scott walker doing better. jeb bush. the waencandidates need to find way of connecting with the voters especially in early voting states. >> when you say he's in some ways more of what we feared and yet i have learned to fear new things. right? it is one thing to deeply disagree with a party or with a candidate and yet feel like they are perfectly capable of governing. i guess i'm not sure with cruz. i look at someone at a marco rubio or jeb bush, again, deep ideological disagreements but ...

By the way, you asked who is going to be subject to attack. what i wouldn't be surprised by the there's a ganging up on rubio because i think both bush from the one side and ted cruz from other side have an interest in going at him. and that's the attack i'm looking for even if the attack didn't do very well for jeb bush the first time around. >> on the bernie versus hillary campaign, an nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows bernie doing better. hillary clinton, 50% to 42% against donald trump, beats him. bernie sanders, basically the aim, 50%-41%. bernie sanders, 46%-41% on marco rubio. jonath...