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Why speaker pelosi may not want to push this because of what you laid out, perhaps losing the 2020 election on it. just as a matter of congress and congressional oversight, isn't there some obligation to move on with this? >> i miean, that's the argument willie. if they were to move forward on this, that's the argument you'd hear. they simply can't advocate this fundamental responsibility that they feel toward making sure our system of checks and balances and norms is all maintained. it seemed, you know, relatively clear that robert mueller's intention was for congress to grapple with many of ...

>>shepard: thank you, ed, in reno. continuing coverage of the housing crisis from gerri willis. mortgages are hard to get. refinancing, almost impossible. the president trying to come up with solutions. >>gerri: but there was a story in the "wall street journal" about how hard it is to get the refinances and this was $3,000 save each year in the first year for these people who get the loans so here you are, paying your mortgage, doing everything right, and you can not lock in the low rates which would help the economy. the bankers are saying "no." >>shepard: 3 percent on 15 year finance which ...

Op-ed in the "los angeles times." the fact that people who were going along, playing by the rules, doing everything right, they have done everything they know how to do to take care of themselves can be wiped out by an illness or an injury is the exact thing the president was taking on, and he in fact has put something in place that will do it, and the proof of it is that mitt romney, who had a proposal just like this in massachusetts. >> right. >> 74% of the people in massachusetts say they like it, so all this nonsense about the tea party saying they want to repeal it was just a bunch of pol...

This ad that he's airing. >> i'm not big on recalls, and at this point from my opinion, and it's speaking from my opinion, it seems like sour grapes. i didn't get my way and we want to change our mind. >> i don't like recalls and it sounds like sour grapes. since john nichols of "the nation" points out walker used to love recalls. in fact, one propelled him into office. walker became milwaukee county executive in 2002 after an earlier executive was targeted in a recall campaign! walker praised that recall in his race for governor this year. >> the folks that were angry about this started a rec...

Prince george's county maryland. this is in fact the real fraud that's being perpetrated upon the american people, upon voter. and so this verdict today is evidence that that is going on. >> now, judith, i remember 2010 we have a chapter that we were hearing this but you hear it all over the country. does this verdict in your opinion help with many of the cases that groups all over the country have been trying to fight, and will it pour a little cold water on those operatives that may have plans for 2012? >> well, reverend sharpton, oops, they got caught. this is clearly all of the stories tha...