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And maybe some keyboards. you know, i think the thing is, they want to show that they're committed to stopping this. but the fact is the bots have run wild all the time, on twitter, facebook, everywhere it can go. i think what's really interesting to think about is they're sort of bots for hire. during the roseanne thing, a lot of things were bots that started the problem and humans interact with it. that's what happens, bots get everybody started and humans like you were talking to bots essential loy. >> i don't talk to them. i have a no bot policy. >> a no bot policy. but i think the issue i...

>> totally. >> there is also this loophole, "the new york times" had this story in the virginia house race, an anonymous attack ad popping up on facebook, which was, kara, a problem they were supposed to -- a loophole they were supposed to close. >> yep, right. >> which apparently has not been closed. >> not yet. and again, this is one company that wreaks havoc. and by the way, to be fair, it's impossible as the stuff continues to flood into these systems. and the question is do we -- we didn't want gatekeepers. that was the whole point of this, the open platforms. the fact that gate keepers s...

Phrase. we're committed to protecting election integrity around the world, and i thought maybe you have too much power. maybe one room full of your employees with a bunch of computers aren't the people who should be in charge of election protection for everyone's elections in the world. >> exactly. i think i said this before you before, and we discussed this before is they literally, these are the people that are in charge of these things. and are they equipped for it? has it become a monster they can't control? and the issue is the platform was created to do this. they're not -- this is not h...

It creates polarization. they should have had them off there by now at this point and not allow these, like the saudi arabian thing to go on. it's -- the fact that it continues with every story is shocking to me. >> in the case of the saudi bots and twitter, what prompted them to remove it? how did that happen? >> i didn't mean to like -- that's what happened. >> so they weren't affirmatively wait a second, is the number one hash tag in the world really a pro saudi message? >> here's the thing. it's not that hard to find. you take that number one hash tag. that's what we did there is a guy nam...

>> that's what they're engineered to do. the bots come in and use the tool for what it's been engineered to do. >> totally. >> there is also this loophole, "the new york times" had this story in the virginia house race, an anonymous attack ad popping up on facebook, which was, kara, a problem they were supposed to -- a loophole they were supposed to close. >> yep, right. >> which apparently has not been closed. >> not yet. and again, this is one company that wreaks havoc. and by the way, to be fair, it's impossible as the stuff continues to flood into these systems. and the question is do we -...