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Are you kidding me? >> everyone loves talking with us. >> oh, they love us. >> what's the question? >> the question today, though, are we getting to the point where democratic candidates talk mostly to msnbc and republicans talk mostly to fox news. former republican vice presidential candidate sarah palin told fox that candidates should watch out when it comes to, quote, the lamestream media. >> there's got to be the preparation on all the candidates' parts for those gotchas. that's what the lamestream media is known for nowadays is the gotcha trip-up questions and you just have to be prepared...

To say that again. it's like, look at everything you've done with your family, with your charity. look at all the love that you've given. how can you hate yourself? and, oprah, that was it. "hate" is such a horrible word, but yes, i felt hate. oprah: let's talk about that process. there was a time when you describe in the book, madonna comes up and she said to you, "stop doing interviews, because people already know who you are," and you said it wasn't until later that you really understood what she meant. what was it that you understood? >> that you need to step out of the picture for a secon...