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>> neil: even with all the back and forth, you think we can avoid a shutdown. >> i know we will. it costs trillions of dollars. for those furloughed, those doing research. >> neil: depends how long. >> of course. the whole idea of a nation like ours closing down is totally embarrassing and with the debt ceiling, we would have to pay in terms of increased interest if we even thought about doing it. no, they're sensible enough to know what we're not going to do but they won't share with us where there can be negotiation. that's the key. >> neil: it always happens. you settle these things. >> it ...

Even attempt to run for president in iran? >> first i have been going back and forth to iran almost every year a few times. i have even been in the war front when iran and iraq were fighting, i spent three years in the front, 86, 87, 88, not to fight but to assess war damage and help the victims. i have been back in iran during the earthquake disasters, a few times. i have been in iran quite a bit. so i have extensive writing on iran, doing research on iran, advising governments there. so i've had very extensive relationship with that country. jenna: why do you want this job? >> well, i think ...

Deserts we have to invite super markets in there give them tax breaks pay fo it because they can't get fresh food? >> ever since that original myth came out about the food desert we found out by doing research is that it really wasn't true at all. >> there are just as many super markets in that area. >> we are right back to where we go again. >> they can get out and do something for themselves they are the ones with the choice they need to be doing that for their families as well. >> nutritionists. >> may you all be stosselized.

Sliver of land. >> the book, you focus on the terrorist group hezbollah portrayed, smuggling of antiquities. what fascinates me of you picking hezbollah, i think syria at moment could implode, is it a full-fledged civil war? we'll lead that to others to tell us when the civil war actually happened. what happens to syria? you spent time studying syria for a long period of time to do the book, deal with hezbollah, get facts right as you write the fiction. as you look at this doing research, what happens to syria when syria falls? assad's going to fall, we just don't know when. >> one of the thin...

Stories. that was the thing that was not clear. what is academia doing doing. >> they want to know how not to be a nerd. >> doing research so you can improve yourself. why i never got a chick in high school. counted the ways, if i had just done a little more socially conscious work and would have been cool. >> you find the problem and build the machine to give you things. >> that is what america does. >> we'll use them. >> we'll take them. >> that is good point. this is selfish research. >> it's the people that did research on viagra. somebody was actively working on it. now penises are hard, ...