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Administrative review to a criminal investigation. it was first reported "the new york times." it's being conducted by u.s. attorney john durham. this move gives durham the power to subpoena witness testimony and documents to convene a grand jury and to file criminal charges. as the times notes, it's likely to raise alarms that president trump again is using the justice department to go after his perceived enemies. at this point it's not clear what potential crime he's investigating and a doj spokesperson declined to comment. federal investigators need only a reasonable indication that a crime...

Based on doj guidelines, that doesn't mean that the congress doesn't have the right to impeach. in fact, that is exactly where it should be taking place. >> congresswoman jackie speier, thank you for your time. really appreciate it. >> thank you, jake. let's chew over this with our experts. amanda, let me start with you. so one of the questions here is about the meeting that president trump had with lewandowski when he told him to tell jeff session, then attorney general, that to instruct sessions to tell the public that mueller's investigation is unfair, and that he's going to tell mueller ...

Think. >> if that happened, that would be a bombshell. he said, of course, if it weren't for the doj guidelines, i would have indict him. we don't think he will say that. >> i do think what's happening really is that she's stuck in this loop and people are very frustrated that there hasn't been more of an investigation and i know people have been basically waiting for mueller and the fact that it's taken so long and he had to be subpoenaed to get mueller is adding to the frustration. but i would say we should differentiate these two votes. there are a lot of pretty progressive people who think...

Interference activities. on obstruction, mueller says he did not set out to indict the president because of his belief that doing so would go against doj guidelines but did list the obstruction in detail in the report. any action could be taken up by the congress while the president is in office or by the courts after his term is complete. catherine herridge reporting live. so a delay in the testimony, huh? >> shep, earlier today multiple forces told fox news that his testimony would likely be put off because there was a break down in negotiations. two hours later, the democrats on the house c...

You have members trying to encourage pro impeachment stances, it's getting more serious. >> you're having conversations on capitol hill, too, donny. tell us about them. >> let me talk about my point of view as far as this. i talked about it a lot. i think there's a simple solution, not binary choice of impeach or not impeach, a third land, branding lane. take the impeachment word away. the impeachment word ends in the senate. once again you basically, i think the democrats should own trump as a criminal and say basically we know that mueller found him guilty of obstruction and criminal act. he...