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The adjectives to convey our horror at these reports and our heart break for him and his family. and i have to say all of those emotions are exacerbated and many times over by the notion that the president of the united states speaking about someone who lived in the united states, someone who worked for a u.s. newspaper, someone who was doing his job, which was to tell the truth as he understood it about the country that he loved, that the president would describe our relations with saudi arabia as excellent and that the president would talk about these relations in dollar terms and not in hum...

The country that he loved, that the president would describe our relations with saudi arabia as excellent and that the president would talk about these relations in dollar terms and not in humanity and human rights terms. >> and shane harris, what do you think of the available avenues for you to be pursuing on this story as its developing? >> well, i think there's a big question still here about -- to use the old phrase -- what did the president know and when did he know it? our previous reporting in the paper this week showed there were intercepts they had of saudi officials discussing separa...

Passion of christ," mel gibson. why did it do well? there was a lot of truth. they were unafraid to do it well. it was great art. let's do a religious film and try to make money? doesn't work. you have to make a truthful and you have to have great art. great actors, great directors, great scripts. speak to you mentioned "the passion of the christ." looking at it in dollar terms, we have seen films like these enjoying the support and enthusiasm. it occurs when we were at political loggerheads. it does seem weird. >> it does but for example, "the passion of the christ," i was an advisor on that ...

Protect themselves from outside threats like change. and so you as the ceo have to be the one who comes in and sets the culture. it's okay to fail. we have to think differently. >> what have you done in the past when you realizeed your culture was veering off course and you need to write it. >> i require the executives who report to me to quantify their failures in their annual reviews. so i need to know how much have your failures cost the company in actual dollar terms. once you get people thinking that that's okay, in fact, it's required that you make mistake throughout the year, i found it...

Culture. it's okay to fail, we're willing to think differently. >> what have you done in the past when you realized your culture was veering off course and you need to ed to right it? >> one thing i do is i require the executives who report to me to quantify their failures in their annual review. i need to know how much have your failures cost the company in actual dollar terms? once you get people thinking that that's okay, in fact, it's required that you make mistakes throughout the year, i find it changes the way people act entirely. >> interesting. do they do that with their direct reports...