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Munitions. joining me now, steve clemens, editor at large for "the atlantic" and richard wolffe" from msnbc.com. it turns out there's been some real progress. >> i think it was on your show that said if president obama could trade a messy war for getting syria to become part of the chemical weapons convention and we can get back on somewhat on the same side with russia on trying to deal with global problems, that would be an enormous strategic success the president could say we've checked off a box and we're not going have another trillion dollar war. >> and richard wolffe, i'm not hearing any...

Started. we will start another war? >> i think one thought that comes in, we will do a contained thing. we go in with bombers and we will drop bombs on a couple of different military installations and that will be that. i was talking with kenneth poli poli pollack. he doesn't think you can do that kind of air strike and not led it lead into a broad war. when you open that door you don't know where it leads. some say it can be low cost i think back to the beginning of the iraq war where we told reinstruction would than $1.8 billion. american taxpayer pay $1.8 billion to rebuild iraq. it's like ...

Right now on the phone. there are precautions being taken right now to get the u.s. military ships and submarines into place or out of harm's way. we are talking about a tsunami wave that will be coming in with the velocity of jet-like speed. >> reporter: absolutely, fred. we've been in touch with the navy all day. we can tell you now in hawaii at pearl harbor area, four u.s. navy warships getting under way. the number of ships will stay tied up in port. they are trying to get as many as they can out of the way. these ships are very expensive, multibillion dollar war ships and they need to get...