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In the budget. he said i hate to do it but he gave away hundreds of billions of dollars two months ago. >> you and i say the president should have fought harder to allow the tax breaks to expire on billion yarz and million yarz. >> exactly. >> i'm not fighting that in this sense. >> yeah. >> but i will tell you that raising taxes on billionaires and raising taxes on millionaires will not put a dent on the medicare, medicaid, social security crisis. it doesn't even begin that way. >> not exactly right, joe. >> you'll have a hard problem -- >> not exactly right. >> moving that 12% number up by i...

Problem. bill: why? >> it is based on intervention and taking care of people once they are ill and they talk prevention and the president talks prevention but nothing will really address the run away freight train here. bill: what he has talked about is a better diet. what his wife talked about is getting america to be healthier. which goes right to your issue of... >> right -- >> aging population. >> that is rhetoric. i don't believe that that will actually happen. we watch too much television and are sedentary and gaining too much weight, all the wrong foods are in our stores and we get hear...