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Committee and the house sued president trump's first white house counsel don mcgahn to compel him to obey a subpoena, to compel him to show up to testify before congress. don mcgahn of course is the key witness in the volume of the mueller report that's about the president potentially committing criminal obstruction of just. so congress is going to get to the bottle of the allegations in the mueller report. obviously they're going to want to hear from the key witness in the mueller report which is don mcgahn. the white house not surprisingly has told mcgahn he can't testify, he shouldn't testi...

So congress is going to get to the bottle of the allegations in the mueller report. obviously they're going to want to hear from the key witness in the mueller report which is don mcgahn. the white house not surprisingly has told mcgahn he can't testify, he shouldn't testify. the president beyond that has called mcgahn all sorts of names and said he's a liar and threatened him and threatened his law firm and incidentally that may itself be witness tampering to keep don mcgahn from talking in a federal ongoing investigation. but for his own part don mac began is trying to get out of testifying ...

>> of course he could have stopped it. >> he could have fired him, but don mcgahn's client is the office of the presidency. >> he's saying this is on my orders and according to the reporting don mcgahn is reporting yes i had full knowledge of this. the news is the story has apparently shifted halfway through, so the idea of allowing unfettered access to general counsel at the beginning probably isn't looking so great now. >> that's a legitimate concern of a lawyer saying, you know, there may be areas of privilege, other areas we should have been concerned about, and in trump's fashion saying l...

Divides, divides both in our country or political system that could be president trump 2020. >> that would theoretically include you, i suppose? >> it would include all kinds of folks. right now really what i've been doing is i have been listening, traveling the country quite a bit, listening probably more than we've been talking. for now that's as far as it goes. >> thanks for joining us today. we appreciate. >> great talking this morning, jake. a stunner in the russia investigation. a white house lawyer involved in some of the most int tit discussions with the president is reportedly talki...

Cia director. more than a century of combined intelligence experience sitting at this table right now. i hope you're not offended by that, more than a century. but lisa, i want to start with you. i do want to ask as someone who worked at the justice department, under bob mule squr at the white house, what do you make of mcgahn talking to the president, talking to special counsel, according to "the new york times" one of the concerns is president trump was setting him up to be a john dean like patsy. what do you make of it? >> look, that really was a remarkable report we saw in "the times" this...