Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130125:12:30:00
Instead of investing it in more jobs, more growth. more hope. where does this money come from, steve? tax man? >> don't put it all on steve. >> i don't mind lowering your taxes as long as you're willing to have me lower your benefits because the numbers -- ultimately the math has to add up. joe, you are the great deficit hawk of all time. >> i am. >> you believe we should not be incurring this debt, so we've got to do something. >> right. >> what is that something? we have an aging society with a large commitment to social welfare programs that the public does not want to see materially reduce...