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>> the rules don't apply. >> he's absolutely right, the senate is the locust of the trial, andas the sole power over the trial, they set the rules and they can determine whether or not to sequester themselves. they've decided in the past because senators are so much more honorable than the ones you just played. they didn't have to do that sort of thing. if they keep behaving this way, the chief justice is going to have a tough decision to make on whether he admonishes some of these senators. >> if we wait to see if this happens come january. john dean, you say the house shouldn't send these ar...

With that, brooke. i'm out in my community all the time, i've done over 200 events in my first year in congress. i'm out doing coffees on the corner, large town halls, talking to my district all the time. i go everywhere, i don't shy away from questions and conversations, people are concerned, they're not happy, i'm not happy about this either, i'm not happy that i'm going to have to cast a vote to impeach a president. that's not what i came to do. people in my district are not happy our president did what he did in ukraine, they're not happy that we're forced into this position right now. >> ...

Were those two things connected? when you look at the evidence and bring common sense to bear, we're allowed to use common sense, no question. we can see it on the july 25th call between trump and zelensky. >> what's the basic defense, jimmy? >> there's just no valid basis for bribe rry or treason or anyf the things that would reach the level of impeachment. >> why isn't it a bribe? >> it's very easy to say in the context of a hearing where hearsay evidence is let in, anything they want to throw against the wall is let in. the rules of evidence don't apply. >> that's a process your party had n...

Connected. the answer is no question about it. we heard it from witness after witness. we heard it out of mick mulvaney's mouth and we can see it on the july 25th call between trump and zelenski. >> what's the basic defense, jimmy? >> there's just no valid basis for bribery or treason or any of the things that would reach the level of impeachment. >> why isn't it a bribe? >> it's very easy to say in the context of a hearing where hearsay evidence is let in, anything they want to throw against the wall is let in. the rules of evidence don't apply. and none of that matters here. >> that's a proc...

For any president to be under oath and forced to answer questions where he has confidential and top secret information in his head. he is concerned with protecting his legacy. is he concerned with protecting his presidency. is hhe is concerned with dealing with the viewing public. it's artificial and dangerous environment. steve: it's not judicial. it's congressional. it's all political. >> we were just talking. brian asked about the rules on hearsay during the break. the rules don't apply here. anything goes. this is not a courtroom. adam schiff. steve: whatever they say. >> adam schiff is no...