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Abb abbey lowe was counsel to the house of representatives. so they've got two very experienced lawyers and the statement oral or written reflects their wise counsel. >> the problem though, don, is still this june 9 meeting. it has not been clear to me it has been put to bed by kushner's statement. it may be so that he only stuck around for a few minutes of the meeting and asked for an excuse to leave. it doesn't mean that the meeting wasn't sub substantive. that the folder that was submitted wouldn't submitted that they didn't talk about sanctions or the research that they had. so he didn't p...

Anybody a seat next year. >> 17% of americans like the versions of the republican plan, the affordable care act has a majority approval rating. campaigning and voting on something that has 17% approval rating and even if you look purely at trump voters only, it's 25% approval rating. it is at astronomically, i'm mixing it the metaphor, low, abysmally low numbers. it is not a good strategy. it is not a good thing to ask them to walk the plank on. and i mean, you know, maybe the rules of politics don't apply anymore. i agree with you on that, given this president. but i think when you're talking...

Rules of politics don't apply anymore. i agree with you on that, given this president. but i think when you're talking about real people and not just political projections, when you are talking about potentially 32 million people losing their health care, that is not just a guess. that is real for them. >> you talked about the polling on obamacare versus the republicans' bill. listen to this because the president talks about obamacare. watch this. >> for the past 17 years, obamacare has wreaked havoc on the lives of innocent hard working americans. behind me today, we have real american famili...

Not a criminal case is that the criminal rules of evidence don't apply. so the senator can ask, well, how did you interpret it? what did you think the president meant when he said that? did you think that he was trying to get you to lay off the investigation? did it feel like an order? those questions wouldn't be allowed in a criminal proceeding. the senators can ask everything they want. >> steve, i don't know about you, but i love politics, and i love mystery, and here we have it right together. a mystery story. will james comey be stopped from testifying next week? will he have the cojones ...

Being a senate investigation and not a criminal case is that the criminal rules of evidence don't apply. so the senator can ask, well, how did you interpret it? what did you think the president meant when he said that? did you think that he was trying to get you to lay off the investigation? did it feel like an order? those questions wouldn't be allowed in a criminal proceeding. the senators can ask everything they want. >> steve, i don't know about you, but i love politics, and i love mystery, and here we have it right together. a mystery story. will gjames comey be stopped frm testimony next...