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You would have pooped your pants. we can all say wa we would have done. would you have done it? it's hard to judge him. isn't it? >> i'm not judging saying he should have done something about it. why wouldn't you step? >> talking about protecting all the people in the world. liberals love to, don't bully, don't hurt anybody hoop weaker than you. 3-1 odds and you're telling me you think it's okay to step band ak watch this poor kid get pummeled? >> to help a 65-year-old -- >> it didn't look like he tried to even say, stop. >> hogan is like jason. i get it. tough guy going in, stop the fight. ki...

Up another child, 3-1 odds you can't step in for a second and say, back off. back off, try to step between these two people fighting? i don't understand what the big deal? look, i know he's an older man. it wasn't like these kids -- big kids. looks pretty big and strong but not 65 football players. they're teenagers i. have to ask you, hogan -- i don't mean to make it personal, hogan, but would you have? i get annoyed at all the armchair heros in aurora and other places. i would have done this if i had a gun and done that. know you wouldn't have. you would have pooped your pants. we can all sa...

One answer is that if you show kids that most other kids in the school actually don't like bullying and don't do it, then you're proving to them, this isn't the normal thing. this isn't what everybody does. so one thing that elementary schools have done is done an internal survey. and then they put up posters that say things like "90% of the kids here don't bully." and then they see the rates go down even further because the other kids see that. it's not normal behavior. >> that's very cool. you talk a little bit about twitter and facebook, what they're doing or not doing to help prevent bully...

Talk about helicopter parenting and parents who hover and all that stuff. does that have anything to do with this? or maybe not? because as you say, the actual numbers haven't changed over the years. >> i think that the helicopter parenting is the danger there is that people are going too far. you know, kids are never -- you don't want to monitor them all the time. they need some room to grow, some sense of independence. and then the really tricky part especially with social media is figuring out what that means. if kids are on the computer and you can't see at all what they're doing, are they...