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>> well, there's always that talk. there's certainly -- it's interesting, it tends to target ruth bader ginsburg, who is 81, not so much stephen breyer. every couple months someone writes a piece saying justice ginsburg, you're old, please step down so obama can fill your seat now before this gets ugly. there is that talk. it's generally met, including by myself, with a, hey, she knows what she's doing. don't force her to sit down. it smacks of ageism and sexism. but i think it is certainly the case that obama will find it -- if you consider how it has been impossible, with control of the sena...

Government is a different thing. >> republicans have voted to fund the government. we are going to continue to vote to fund the government. it's those who, again, won't sit down and negotiate and use the hyperbole who aren't listening to the same constituents we are that small businesses can't hire and obama care is not ready. why have we delayed it for employers but not employees? it's crazy. all we are asking for, if it's not ready for prime time, don't force it on the people. >> before you let him go -- >> reporter: yes. >> i have to ask the question, i'm sure people at home are asking the ...

>> and this country still doesn't have -- america does not have a long-term plan for the storage of nuclear waste. that's an issue here. and we just had that leak a few days ago out at that plant near san diego, onofre. that was a lesson there as well. so now nine environmental and consumer groups threatening to sue over this because we still don't know exactly if the country's able to survive something if an earthquake should hit or something of -- along those lines. it's dangerous in a lot of ways. see how it plays out. the story ain't over for sure. in other news this morning president ob...

Other conservatives to make the unions out to be bad guys. look, the bottom line is sometimes they are bad. sometimes they are good. the average is what we are trying to seek here. i agree with mark, compromise is the name of the game. everyone will come to the compromise. >> shannon: really quick answers because i want to get to you both on this question. best advice you would give to the unions in this case from a p.r. standpoint and how they turn this around in their favor. >> i think that so far this has been in their favor. the best advice is to stick to their points. you know, but say th...

Favor of the rich because it's an opportunity for open spending that puts them head and shoulder above everybody else. >> in california you'll always have the rich. i don't know if this helps them or not. you better be one of the top two candidates. you better have a good message to all of california. if you do, you'll be one of the top two. people will vote for you. >> a pleasure. thanks for the conversation. it will be interesting to see how it goes on the ballot this afternoon. abel. when you think about the problems. think habit the crappy policies of all these politician and all the syste...