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>> johar: in the fighting? >> anthony: it was a good day? yeah. >> johar: it's give it to me nice feeling. nice feeling. the gaddafi, he's killed my cousin. how you should be feeling? if -- uh, exactly. i feeling good. because i wanted killed him. uh, i -- i don't wanted -- i don't want see anyone die more. he has killed for nothing. the first time, i think, uh, that killing people is bad. but he's, he's leave me do that. because if i don't kill him, he is kill me. >> anthony: right. it's nice to see freedom. and it's nice to see the bad guy gone. it's nice. i feel welcome here. >> johar: fina...

So then to portray him during the guilt phase as something else, again, if i'm a defense attorney and i'm sensitive to your point i'm thinking about my credibility and i want to save my credibility when i'm trying to convince them not to kill him. so perhaps it was not the worst strategy in the world to let him be who he is, let's not try to insult the jury's intelligence and suddenly he's chock full of emotion and regret and remorse, let's save it for the penalty phase and i would submit during the penalty phase they will pull out all the stops to show why there are these mitigating factors. ...

He was there, gun in hand, when they stormed gadhafi's palace compound. happy? excited? good day? yeah. >> give to me nice feeling, nice feeling that gadhafi -- he has killed my cousin! how should i be feeling? exactly, i'm feeling good, because i want to kill him. i don't want to see anyone dying more. he has killed for nothing! the first time i think that killing people is bad, but he's leave me do that, because if i don't kill him, he's kill me. >> right. it's nice to see freedom. it's nice to see the bad guy gone. it's nice. i feel welcome here. >> finally, we say no on him. he's now died....

Saying, put it up the butt, you know what i'm saying, in front of everybody. don't mess with me, you know? the reason i violate them after i get in physical contact with them, i learn it in prison from a 25-year vet. i seen an old convict when he knocked a guy out, know what i'm saying, took a finger, stuck it in the hole, know what i'm saying? that man crazy, going to stick a finger in the butt hole, don't kill him, leave him alone, you know? that's what i learned. that's what i learned from. >> just be aware of the thumb. if you get on his bad side, he'll disgrace you, he'll slaughter your n...

Saying, put it up the butt, you know what i'm saying, in front of everybody. don't mess with me, you know? the reason i violate them after i get in prison contact with them, i learn it in prison from a 25-year vet. i seen an old convict when he knocked a guy out, know what i'm saying, took a finger, stuck it in the hole, know what i'm saying? that man crazy, going to stick a finger in the butt hole, don't kill him, leave him alone, you know? that's what i learned. that's what i learned from. >> just be aware of the thumb. if you get on his bad side, he'll disgrace you, he'll slaughter your nam...