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Even if that bears out and he said things on the campaign trail and we're seeing things different in this period as president-elect, he seems to at every turn find a way to sort of push that off and move forward. is that what we can expect as we move into this administration and into these confirmation hearings? >> i think on the confirmation hearing, i think the problem for some of these nominees will be before they have a hearing. even bill clinton nominated two women for attorney general who had nanny problems and paying taxes and employing illegal -- you will have checks, very clearly for ...

>> isn't it more depressing to think there is nothing you can do about it? >> there is something you can do, but i prefer to watch tv and watch red eye. i think it really honestly you have so little impact on the earth. it is arrogant to think you can't change the world. >> it is the backpedaling. we should all do our part, but don't over state the impact you have as one person. >> you are the business mind here. wasn't this all about making a lot of money? >> making money and business and con -- contracts and this and that. >> i think we suffer from information over load. we should look at cl...