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Activist judges to secure the national border a or no national border.. or the eviscerated military. >> and nationalism versus socialism. that is the issue. you hear these people talking about all about these free things they are proposing. who will pay for that? no one is saying that say we will give you free this or that as a declaration. but how do you pay for it? and they will be greatly burdened to support people who don't work and don't pay taxes

Power. there is a process we have to file and we will hold them in contempt that authorizes the civil action brought in court and the court will order them to comply with the subpoena and when they don't, if they don't, the court will enforce it by taking them into custody and imposing fines and taking other action. this is civil contempt. >> i want to stop you there. what would happen if they are people who don't pay traffic tickets. what happens if they say we don't care if you hold us in contempt. we are not coming anyway. >> they have the entire power of the court, they are defying a court...

Getting paid? is that what we want in this country? >> of course not. we're the united states of america. >> we're a mature democracy. no other country would do that, no other democracy would do that. are the senators just going to keep expecting tsa, border patrol, the coast guard and the federal civil servants who are considered essential at all of our institutions, are we going to continue to expect them to work without pay? frankly, i think senators should stop taking their pay and members of the house should stop taking their pay? why should they be paid, frankly, why people who are worki...

Day and if it continues for a significant period of time, is there an expectation that these people will continue to work week after week without getting paid? people can't do that. they can't live that way. >> the law expects it, but there can, like i said, there will have to be stopgap measures. people have to pay their bills. they will start to resign. by the way, if they work, don't pay -- aren't paid and then resign, the law says they still have to be paid retroactively if they work, aside from any stopgap measures. everybody hears about the government voting retroactively to pay people w...

In january. the president said back in august that the federal budget could not support that pay increase. president trump is blaming democrats for the deaths of two migrant children at the mexico border and he is facing criticism for it. the president claims democrats and quote pathetic immigration policies allow people to think they could enter illegally. he insists they would not even try to come if there was a wall. i want you to listen to kellyanne conway on cnn over the weekend. >> i don't like some of the democrats uses the deaths as political pawns. >> isn't that what the president j...