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I might have been broke, but i was gonna have fun. i was gonna enjoy my day, and i was doing something that i liked to do. i might be working in a job i hated, but i was finding things i liked to do, and i think, you know, if you can do those things, then you're gonna be okay. how important is fear in success? to me, it was critical. it was very important. i was, you know, you've gotta be self-aware. you've gotta recognize that there's a good chance this isn't going to work, and use that for motivation, and i do it all the time, and i always tell people there's a 12-year-old little girl or lit...

I might have been broke, but i was gonna have fun. i was gonna enjoy my day, and i was doing something that i liked to do. i might be working in a job i hated, but i was finding things i liked to do, and i think, you know, if you can do those things, then you're gonna be okay. how important is fear in success? to me, it was critical. it was very important. i was, you know, you've gotta be self-aware. you've gotta recognize that there's a good chance this isn't going to work, and use that for motivation, and i do it all the time, and i always tell people there's a 12-year-old little girl or lit...

Once you know what it's like to not know if your credit card's gonna get ripped up, not know, you know, if you're gonna pay the rent, that impacts you. i mean, that-- that drives you. because you don't want to go back there. if you're comfortable, you know, you might say, "you know what? if i don't do this, if i don't put in the hours, i'll still be okay." and i think that makes a big difference. harvey: speaking of your kids, their dad owns the mavericks. - yeah, i know. - their dad's a celebrity on television. - i know, i know. - so, i'm not trying to scare you, but they don't feel the pain ...

Once you know what it's like to not know if your credit card's gonna get ripped up, not know, you know, if you're gonna pay the rent, that impacts you. i mean, that-- that drives you. because you don't want to go back there. if you're comfortable, you know, you might say, "you know what? if i don't do this, if i don't put in the hours, i'll still be okay." and i think that makes a big difference. harvey: speaking of your kids, their dad owns the mavericks. - yeah, i know. - their dad's a celebrity on television. - i know, i know. - so, i'm not trying to scare you, but they don't feel the pain ...

I might have been broke, but i was gonna have fun. i was gonna enjoy my day, and i was doing something that i liked to do. i might be working in a job i hated, but i was finding things i liked to do, and i think, you know, if you can do those things, then you're gonna be okay. how important is fear in success? to me, it was critical. it was very important. i was, you know, you've gotta be self-aware. you've gotta recognize that there's a good chance this isn't going to work, and use that for motivation, and i do it all the time, and i always tell people there's a 12-year-old little girl or lit...