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>> it all comes down to this. credit to low and moderate income folks if they enroll through an exchange established by the state. as you mentioned more than 30 states didn't set up the exchanges and the plaintiffs are arguing that the tax credits extended bite irs should not have gone into the states. here's what johnathon gruber said. >> if you are a state and don't set up an exchange. your citizens don't get the tax credits. but they pay all of the taxes. i hope that is a political reality they will realize billions at stake here and set up the exchanges. but once again the politics can get...

I remember walking up to the president, i said welcome, mr. president to the room where we plot against you. and the president said oh, no, not after 6:00, the speaker says not after 6:00. there is a sense of we'll argue it and get it done. there were shutdowns, over money, the usual kind of things politicians argue about, but there were not non-negotiable demands. >> i guess democrats are complaining this week, saying ted cruz, if you want to change the law, let's talk about how we can change the law. but don't set up a scenario where it is either you get rid of the whole thing or the governm...

And the president said oh, no, not after 6:00, the speaker says we're friends after 6:00. there is a sense of we'll argue it and get it done. there were shutdowns, over money, the usual kind of things politicians argue about, but there were not non-negotiable demands. >> i guess democrats are complaining this week, saying ted cruz, if you want to change the law, let's talk about how we can change the law. but don't set up a scenario where it is either you get rid of the whole thing or the government will end up being shut down or the debt limit won't be raised. >> yeah, i love the negotiations...

This. there are five states in the union like oklahoma and wyoming that don't set aside time in schools for students to say the pledge. why don't we persuade people, actually, why don't we go through the political process, make that argument and have state legislatures role back the pledge if we feel it's truly outdated. >> sometimes the court -- >> when the court is more progressive, we people pose the view -- >> wait a minute -- >> this is a statement of political philosophy. >> often times the court has to be advanced. banning interracial marriage, 70% of americans agreed with the law. than...

Constitutional. but that the federal government can't take away all of the state's medicaid money if they don't participate in the new program. something we will get to in a sec. but it sounded different the way they put it. less constitutional and more it would make george washington cry a thousand tears. which is a little odd. any way, the republicans are asking governors to do in that letter does not amount to much at all. they're saying don't set up the health insurance exchanges which are the places you go to buy the insurance, but if states don't set them up, the law said the federal gov...