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Our website dot.gov for recall to go back, those are not safe. >> phil lebeau covers the auto industry and joins me from capitol hill. as we wait for toyoda to testify. is it like there congressional hearings will lead to change in the way the government's side of this investigation is done? >> reporter: probably introduction of tighter rules in terms of those members that lead the organization and then go to work for one of the automakers. right now they are supposed to be a two-year ban in which they can't go to the automakers and directly involved in the issues involving that automaker. the...

Game changer, the u.s. government had trouble getting answers out of toyota out of the japanese headquarters. that's been important today. there has been a lot of discussion also about where to go with the next step. and it was, again, reiterated that the secretary says if you have one of the cars that's on the list and refers people to the website, in his words, they are not safe unless you go and get the repairs made. what we also learned yesterday, andrea, is that even with the repairs being done now, toyota can't say for certain that that will resolve all of the problems. the more we learn...

For recall. i want anybody that has one of those cars to take it to their dealer and make sure that it gets fixed. >> i don't think you ever really answered the question because you -- he asked you whether or not you consider toyota to be safe. >> for those cars listed on our website, do.gov, for recall, to go back, those are not safe. >> that's the key problem from elijah cummings are those cars safe? he is saying they are not. >> that is the real issue, that certainly for people who own a toyota, have someone in the family that does, that's what breaks through to the consumer. there's a lot ...

There needs to be a recall, it will be done. that's -- that has been the work of nhtsa. with respect to your specific question during that time period, what i'd like to do, mr. chairman, is put it on the record after i really can get the facts for you. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. again, i know you, as all of us, recognize how important safety is. so let me ask you this. do you think it's safe to drive a toyota today? >> pardon me? >> do you think it's safe to drive a toyota today? >> i will say this. i will say that if people check our website, dot.gov, we have listed every toyota t...

E-mails? >> reporter: the executive director of the trump transition team maintains that robert mueller obtained the e-mails unlawfully. there is dispute over who had ownership of the e-mails exchanged between several key trump transition officials. you have general services administration which provided e-mail support and logistics for the transition team making the case that because they were on a dot-gov domain they are part of a public record. on the other hand you have transition team saying that is not the case that there was an understanding between the trump transition team and the gsa...