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Unauthorized biography sparked whether she streets her more hashly -- harshly because she is a woman. sexism? >> of course. of course. look, 21 of the fortune 500 c.e.o.'s are women. people do not know how to cover women in the media. in 2013. 21 out of the 500? yes, in 2013 because women are in a double bind on several fronts. one, if you look good, and you are put together, people automatically assume you are a barbie and stupid. >> that doesn't happen on tv? >> never. if you don't look go and you look like you do not care, people think you do not care and that translates into not caring abo...

Fee on business insider sparked a debate on whether the press treats mayer more harshly because she is a woman. look at what has been said and written about mayer over the last yeerk. sexism? >> of course. 21 of the fortune 500ceo's are women. people do not know how to cover women in the media. >> in 2013? >> in 2 have 13. in 2013. 21 out of 500, yes. women are in a double bind. one on how they look. if you look goodment if you are put -- if you look good, if you are put together people automatically assume are barbie and are stupid. >> that does president -- that doesn't happen on tv, does it...

Gets to bask in that. it is good for yahoo! and then if somebody criticizes her for doing her chief executive job, this is sexism. >> that's not true. people do not spend the -- spend more time talking about her job. look at the new yahoo! e-mail design, the logo design. how many articles were there about that and how many about this vogue spread she did? >> can we look at that control room? she was obviously -- probably spent many hours getting fitted and made up. nobody forced the ceo of yahoo! to pose for those pictures. you are complaining that we are covering it? >> no, i'm saying, again,...

Advice to take herself off her own political ads because she was too attractive and it was actually -- and they were running focus groups and they were running polling and it was doing -- it was triggering some part in the male voter that was mutually exclusive with taking her seriously as an authoritative -- >> do you ever despair for your gender? just looking at some of these stories. >> all the time. consistently and constantly. >> there is this double bind. god forbid you be ugly as a female politician or public person. >> and what i've been thinking about today because of the revelation o...

Back and making less than men? >> well, it's working in a lot of different ways. in the first place, of course, there is outright discrimination. when you attach a woman's name and a man's name to the same job application, she is less likely to be hired. and if she is hired she is offered a lower starting salary. so another part of it is that we have been socialized, that it's rude for women to negotiate. and in fact we do get penalized when we negotiate. it's sort of a double bind. we don't ask for higher salaries so we start at lower salary, and that mounts over the years because promotions ...