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A certified -- the medical examiner's office usually is in charge of this. it can be a tough task to figure out exactly how many lives were lost. it's tough emotionally and it's just tough to do overall. what can happen sometimes is that you might have two different organizations -- the medical examiner's office and another organization both counting. as a result there may be lack of communication and as a result, double counting. so this was almost double the number. there were 24 lives lost, they said 51. i think it was that double counting. again, it's an error. often times the error goes t...

Around last night, which is he can't pay for that $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires, and raise defense spend dgz 2 trillion to a level the pentagon hasn't even asked for without raising taxes on middle class families. they're refusing to specify what deductions they'd eliminate to pay for it. >> now, there have been factual questions about what the president said last night about social security, about deficit reduction, he claimed $4 trillion deficit reduction. he's double counting, there's a gym nick there, according to the nonpartisan committee for responsible federal bu...

Sort of dubious to claim those as savings when, i don't know, it's kind of double counting in a way. and then another 800 billion is from the phantom war savings. another issue to keep in mind, too. a lot of this has to do with the measuring stick you are using. the cbo when they measured obama's latest budget they found it would increase the budget pretty significantly. in any case 10 years from now under obama's plan, national debt would be 76.5% of g.d.p. and current little it's 74.2%. >> there you go. looking at the numbers from the speeches. it's always fun to jump in and now especially w...

Use the word arithmetic. president obama hasn't had the senate pass a budget in three years. in the health care law there are accounting tricks and double counting and double spending of money. i'd like to get back to fundamental basic arithmetic. >> senator, thank you. nice to see you. >> coming up, they're back. your favorite political panel. tonight democrats counting on star power, will it work? you're going to hear from the panel next. we're going to have more live from charlotte. >> hard fought rights of women are on the ballot. democrats trust the judgment of women. we reject the republ...

Use the word arithmetic. president obama hasn't had the senate pass a budget in three years. in the health care law there are accounting tricks and double counting and double spending of money. i'd like to get back to fundamental basic arithmetic. >> senator, thank you. nice to see you. >> coming up, they're back. your favorite political panel. tonight democrats counting on star power, will it work? you're going to hear from the panel next. we're going to have more live from charlotte. >> hard fought rights of women are on the ballot. democrats trust the judgment of women. we reject the republ...