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Government cannot impose on people's religious beliefs. it says nothing about private business. trying to let florists and photographers and the people we've all been talking about for several weeks -- letting them discriminate is not something that was covered by the federal law at all. so it really is not much of a valid comparison. >> gloria, i want you to jump in on this. jeff toobin calls it political double-speak. i want to understand what you think this is. i think at the very least, john and i were talking, it shows the enormous amount of pressure that this governor clearly saw coming ...

The most important thing is they begin to feel like they're benefitting from this. >> one other thing, gas prices are low, right? >> huge deal. >> big reason is there are a lot of reasons, one of the reasons is that the u.s. is producing more than ever, we're doing the fracking, we're doing the shale. we got everything going. the president had been so loud and proud and you were often a messenger for about how oil is the enemy. we've got to get off of it, alternate fuel. now they're celebrating we're putting out so much oil. it sounds like double-speak. >> what i used to say from the white hou...

You're speaking for them. but a lot of people might ask, if you're designated a terrorist organization, it either means something or it doesn't. how can you be a terrorist organization one day and for purposes of this, the next day not. >> the purpose is that you don't declare war, we never declared war officially against the taliban, we had a very broad procession going after all groups associated with al qaeda and we wrapped the taliban into that. that is where our doctrine, our procedures, our laws do not really keep pace with what's going on in the world so. you get into this area of doubl...

Oklahoma field office resource management plan is to respond to the new also policies included but not limited for demand for resources, increases in conflict between competing resource federal vals and land uses and others since the rpms. the overall objective of the effort is to provide a planning approach oh assist in updating the decisions of the rpms. got it? >> if you put it through the b.s. filter it sounds like there is something on the land they want. that's what i hear. >> don't worry. that will clear it up. thanks. >> thanks, megyn. >> bureaucratic double speak. still ahead, why the...

Oklahoma field office resource management plan is to respond to the new also policies included but not limited for demand for resources, increases in conflict between competing resource federal vals and land uses and others since the rpms. the overall objective of the effort is to provide a planning approach oh assist in updating the decisions of the rpms. got it? >> if you put it through the b.s. filter it sounds like there is something on the land they want. that's what i hear. >> don't worry. that will clear it up. thanks. >> thanks, megyn. >> bureaucratic double speak. still ahead, why the...