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The policy i agree with has not changed that much but there was certainly no ambiguity, there was a wariness about the policy itself. >> also after four years of not only escalating the war in afghanistan where he sent 150,000 troops, but he also increased the number of drone strikes. he's defending murdering an american two years later. i mean, so there's an absurdity to this whole discussion. >> look, i keep saying there's a lot here and there's a lot in this speech and he definitely has escalated drone attacks. we have the drone attacks numbers are coming down. doesn't mean he has ruled the...

Places in the world to love in and it's become a similar moll and we need to close guantanamo. >> john mccain won the primary at that time that year and he was vocal to close the prison at gun toantanamo and that positios held by the man who was president at that time. >> i would like to end guantanamo. i would like it to be over with. one of the things we will do is send people back to their home countries. >> so that was the position on the republican side in the lead up to the '08 presidential election. here is how democrats dealed with the same issue at the same time. >> we should shut dow...

South carolina. you can't help but wonder how this is going to go over with senator graham. >> the reason we can't close guantanamo bay is that we don't have a plan to close it. you have to have a plan. we're not dealing with people who planned to rob a liquor store, but these are terrorists. >> it's why he retreated from that goal. there's no question of what his preference is, there's no question what his intentions, all things being equal would b but this is a question where all things are not equal. he's had a very difficult time sort of navigating the different powers hire. he thinks clos...

>> for closing guantanamo bay because it's become a symbol. it may be one of the nicest places in the world to live in, but it has become a symbol and we need to close guantanamo. >> john mccain won the republican primary that year. and at the time, he was really vocal about his desire to close the prison at guantanamo. that position was also held by the man who was president at the time. >> i'd like to end guantanamo. i'd like it to be over with. one of the things we will do is we will send people back to their home countries. >> so that was the position on the republican side in the lead-up ...

He wants to shut down guantanamo and the drones and change and ultimately repeal the law that authorizes a war on terror. and to rise from the notion, that every war has to come to an end. every war in the past has and he said this war must end. that is a naive and utoppian idea. but to end a war you need two sides. you will either have the surrender like the germans and japanese. it was not unlateral. you don't declare the war is over and no response and assume it is over. and the cold war there was not a surrender, but the soviet union disa pored. we are 12 years in and obama stod up in 1958...