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The white house legal team. what does that suggest to you? >> this is somebody who has a lot of experience with the issue of impeachment, during bill clinton. he's also somebody who is an expert of executive privilege, i'm told, which is another issue that could come up. he's somebody who worked for bush. so -- and i'm told by people who know him is that he couldn't be more different from donald trump if he tried to become like bob mueller, who is incredibly different from donald trump. he's a buttoned down guy, very organized, you know, no seat of the pants kind of a lawyer. and so, it's goin...

General election you can be sure the democrats will say what about those tax returns when you were at bain capital. >> yeah, scott, is there something in his background, maybe not lds religion that won't allow him to be anti-establishment, to try to ape a newt gingrich for being a crazy bring the house down guy? he seems like he can't be anti-establishment, mitt romney. >> i think that's right. he's been an institutionalist. as you look at the anti-war era, that is when he was coming of age as a young adult. and in fact a great picture in the book of him protesting the protesters at stanford. ...

Your core convictions. you want to show absolute certainty. and he said yesterday this was a mistake and now will release a year of returns and an estimate of last year. it won't answer all the questions, obviously, when he was at bain capital. that goes way back '84 to '99. if we don't see those tax returns then there will still be questions about that. if he is the nominee in the general election, you can be sure the democrats will say what about those tax returns when you were at bain capital. >> yeah, scott is there something in his background, maybe not his lds religion but something that...

>> he is. >> what he's up against is something rare that's bigger than money in american politics, which is energize conservatives who want a change. >> marco rubio, everybody tries to paint this guy as some right-wing fruitcake because they're idiots and don't really know him. he's very conservative. this is how conservatives like ronald reagan always win. they're painted as these right-wing freaks. then they get on tv, and people expect them to, like, foam at the mouth. and marco's a very -- >> foam free. >> he's foam free. he is a nice guy. he's got a great smile. he's very likeable. he is ...

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