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>> my sense is he doesn't want to help anybody. i think that would be an unfair characterization. something bugs him that day and he's on the prosecutor, something to bug him the next day and he's on defense counsel. i've seen him do both. i've seen him do both in the same trial. i think the bottom line is this. jury is out of the courtroom for some of this. they're not really going to, i think, learn much about one way or the other based on the judge's interjections. this the end i don't think it really matters. it's just a bit annoying and you have to put up with it as a prosecutor. >> okay....

This was going to be an interesting part of the case anyway. it's a lawyhearing to discuss t last ditch things and the defense to get him off the hook. tomorrow will be that hearing. they said that will be delayed till next week. we don't know why. it's totally possible that the judge has a tooth ache or needs to get his car inspected. just realized can't meet for some other reason. totally possible. but it is also worth noting things have been going for manafort and his defense team. his lawyers lost on literally everything motion and request they made to the judge up to and including paul ma...

Prosecutors or the defense is comfortable with. in the virginia trial, not only did they set his trial date for july, two months ahead of his d.c. trial date even though he was charged in d.c. first, but the judge in the case sped things along and turned down manafort's request for a delay in the trial and turned down prosecutors's request to be blocked out on the calendar. he said no, you should be able to get this done in one week. fast, fast, fast. he wants to get it done. that's what the judge is known for. it is surprising and interesting today that in paul manafort's case in the rocket d...

To have developed a work around. manafort has revealed on the monitored phone calls that in order to exchange e-mails he reads and composes e-mails on a second laptop that is shuttled in and out of the facility by his team. this is amazing. when the team takes the laptop from the jail, it reconnects to the internet and manafort's e-mails are transmitted. joining us now, daniel goldman is a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now an msnbc legal analyst and here on set political reporter for the daily beast betsy woodruff, white house reporter with the associate...

Possibly come to the table about an agreement. the sentencing potential for their charges, particularly the money laundering conspiracy, is so high, it's going to be close to the statutory maximum of 20 years. the only thing that can drag that down to a reasonable level is substantial assistance with the government. so they have a tremendous incentive to come forward and cooperate and that means giving other people up, up the chain of command. ideally, the biggest fish they can think of. >> okay, john, danny's talking about what could drag down manafort's sentence. let's talk about who this co...