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That your relationship with leschenko had reached an adversarial point? >> probably around that time, maybe a little bit earlier. >> and this is march? >> yeah. and what i would say, adversarial, that's a really strong word. we, at the u.s. embassy, are visiting key people from the state department and other agencies. we were pushing the ukranians, including mr. leschenko, to do what they said they were going to do, and mr. leschenko entered office, that he was going to clean up the pgo and make reforms, that he was going to bring justice to what they call the heavenly hundred, the people who ...

That your relationship with lutsenko had reached an adversarial point? >> probably around that time, maybe a little bit earlier. >> and this is march? >> yeah. and what i would say, adversarial, that's a really strong word. we at the u.s. embassy are visiting key people from the state department and other agencies. we were pushing the ukrainians, including mr. lutsenko, to do what they said they were going to do when mr. lutsenko entered office, that he was going to clean up the pgo and make reforms, that he was going to bring justice to what they call the heavenly hundred, the people who died...

President obama's lead from behind. >> he's made his point clear and has been consistent on it. as he continues to have the victories, more countries outside of them will realilaz tru s is right, and sort of align themselves with them he's made some progress with that and his speech in poland the other week was s bebulous, veswish more people would read t speech. that's part and parcel to de grating isis and helping thi vescountry and our allies. liz: western values, liberty, democracy. vesanddlolike n f. kennedy woul vessaid the same thing, his watchman on the walls of . phow do you stop lone...

Important part of the process that say i have overcome the harm caused. i don't see myself as a victim anymore. i have overcome that. >> reporter: despite the obvious divide that remain, both gustavo and patricia agree what has taken place for generations in tenanci in pgo and elsewhere cannot be allowed to continue. cnn, mexico. i'm only in my 60's.

In the account he could get access to that much money. he may have been able to tell the guy this is all i can get quickly in cash which may seem like a lot to the killer to have that cash. the assistant may not have had much information. >> but still -- >> pgo ahead. >> peter hit on key things and you have as well. in technology the transfer exists. perpetrators take things from the crime scene and leave things. they take big things like cars and leave things like blood spatter. here he left dna on a pizza crust after he tried to burn it down and erase videos on the security cameras. >> what ...