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The u.s.-ukrainian relationship. and he was concerned that the politics were really going hurt the relationship. so, he warned them, be careful. you can't be seen as infringing in the election or that's going to be bad for ukraine in the long run. but it sounds like those warnings that he gave giuliani were ignored, and we're just learning, of course you just talked in your previous segment about this "new york times" story reporting that there was a draft statement that he was part of, where zelensky, the president of ukraine, was actually going to announce this investigation. so, clearly, he...

Of where zelensky, the president of ukraine was actually going to announce this investigation. so clearly he lost this battle in trying to get giuliani to sort of back off and try to keep distance from this investigation. >> right. from my understanding of your reporting that the conversation with zelensky about don't get involved in american politics, that came short -- i think in early august or after the july -- the end of july phone call that president trump had. and correct me if i'm wrong. and then this -- this ultimatum or this kind of draft document, they were going have zelensky kind ...

Europe to -- to also fix its economic models so they too with grow and we can all benefit, what we do know that when europe grows america grows and so we want them to get the issues right, but i think that they have to be the ones that splitically decide -- politically decide to go down the roads and political expansion. david: two negative quarters, definition of a recession, uk the same way, boris johnson has policy that he's going to apparently implement, not so on the mainland, though, and politico just got a draft document from a bunch of european leaders who were going to be pushing thei...

Everybody is interested in what happened here, even the people involved with what has happened here. >> okay. there is another draft document of which you write, this one from within mueller's office, special counsel's office, anticipating a presidential pardon of michael flynn. can you tell me about that document? was it the same document -- rather was it the same source? >> it was the same source, yes. >> and this is a how many page document? >> i can't remember but it's a substantial document. it is considering all -- this is obviously central to what the special counsel was looking at. it ...

Stuff as a male candidate that a female candidate would never get away with and took flack for a joke he made about his wife doing the child rearing. he's saying, women, i feel you. >> his wife said, i know what you were trying to say but you said it wrong. >> he also said the thing that was most important was electing women into various offices and that's an interesting answer because he's running against many capable women. >> see you guys soon. so right now i want to talk point speaker of the house. nancy pelosi. the pressure is on for her with every new subpoena and every new episode of ...