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>> to make official things that i had decided to do. one of the things i did was among the most controversial i ever did, and that was to pardon the so-called draft dodgers who escaped into canada. and i did that before i ever began to walk down toward the oval office. >> larry: withdraw. did that come up in the campaign, that issue? >> no, it never did. no. >> larry: but you knew you were going do it? >> yes, i knew i was going to do it. a lot of families of those men who -- and a few women i think who went to canada, and they were -- they wanted to come back home. so i just issued a blanket ...