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Steps? is he acting the way that we've seen over the past few days with the sort of augmentation of this -- the situation that he's got with paul manafort? the friction now with manafort? the rescinding of his plea deal? opening this new line within the michael cohen inquiry? we saw a draft indictment, not a real indictment, but a draft indictment from mueller's office for jerome corsi. are we seeing these developments from mueller because mueller is otherwise constrained? and without whitaker, he'd be acting in some different manner and this is a new phase of the special counsel's investigati...

He's also going to be meeting with the president of china to discuss trade. this will be looming over all of it. we're hoping to get a few questions before he departs. >> i want to bring in my panel. karen, a national reporter for "the washington post." glen kirsner, former federal president. and my friend eddie glaude, professor. karen, you are the one who wrote about these late-night calls. do we know if mueller knows what these calls were about or they happened? >> we don't know everything mueller knows. i wish we did. clearly what we know, i would call it a draft indictment, but it's reall...

Release to the public information about the russia scandal and manafort that might not otherwise see the light of day? if, for example, it's otherwise going to be blocked by trump's new acting attorney general, matt whitaker. could that be a factor here? is mueller planning on using these court filings to give the public information about what evidence they have collected and what happened in that presidential election? also, why was nbc news able to obtain these draft court documents from mueller's office tonight, show what appear to be draft charges and a draft plea agreement for a trump cam...

He has also said that he has rejected this proposed plea agreement and i don't necessarily believe everything that mr. corsi says, but it is unusual to see these documents. we can't directly verify them, but they appear to be work of the special counsel's office. just wanted to get your reaction to that. feel like it's very unusual to see what is, in effect, a draft indictment. >> well, it is, but you know, what i imagine would have taken place here is the special counsel would have presented this packet to corsi and his lawyers so that he could be sure, okay, this is what i'm prepared to plea...

Bob mueller's office doesn't leak, but one of their potential criminal targets is leaking. the entire draft indictment and statement of offense, i want to show it to you right here. this is a draft court document mueller said he could use to charge jerome corsi, a rod rosenstein associate with lying to the fbi about several things, including conversations he had with stone that relate to wikileaks. that's why the name of a very controversial figure who, according to this leak could be charged with a felony in the mueller probe any time, his name is in the news in a big way. >> jerome corsi. >>...