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Who's been around for a while, decades. and for him to take pause and begin to describe what he encountered when he went into the walmart seeing the body there is, seeing the scene play out in front of him of what that gunman did to this town, to this community, i think that's what really brought it home for a will the of people in realize ing just the extent of the damage caused here in the time span of swrus a few minutes. that will take years and may never heal fully. >> one more question b about the investigation here. you mention ed the suspect live outside of dallas and in texas. just he...

This one feels quite different in part because i think of how it dove tails with what kathy was just tuking about. the other shooting that took place in dayton, ohio. a number of victims still being hospitalized. there are two major hospitals here in the greater el paso area to which those victims have been b taken. we have heard from administrators there at the hospitals about the conditions of those victims and law enforcement as i said giving us updates throughout the day here, still being led at the local and state level and with the federal government taking a very active role as well. ha...

My daughter and hundreds others who were down in the oregon district last night are alive and are safe today. i also want to thank the first responders. the police and fire who came to the scene and responded unbelievably for our community. this is an unbelievable amount of evil that we cannot comprehend. i appreciate the mayor pulling us together for a briefing today on the investigation that's ongoing. we'll learn more about this particular case. but senator brown is absolutely correct, as is senator portman, we look across the country and see this, we need a national conversation as to how ...

I don't know what is. >> stand by. i'm going to get pete know new reporting he's finding out. especially, i'm curious about the reporting on the dayton suspect and this new information that his sister was one of the early victims? >> well one of the victims certainly, the and the importance of that i think is something they're trying to work through now. it does put a possibly different light on this. if it starts out as a family dispute that escalated into the shooting. that's just simply something that they're going to have to pursue. they say they don't know the answer to that. now we had h...