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And that's not true. >> it was in the report today from the president. no, it was in the president's report today. what would be acceptable to you as a real policy to reduce our dependents on foreign oil. >> we have unlimited sun and we have unlimited wind. we've got to find ways to use this. the real issue in the qdr what does increased climate change means around the world? we've got a real national security issue. the issues the pentagon look s at. focus on these issues that lower our security risk. like you said we cannot absolutely, in no capacity, drill our way out of this. so the best p...

Didn't come up for vote is because the health care pretty well occupied everybody, but i think it's ready to be voted on. i think it will happen and it could come up very soon. >> all right, listen, mr. pickens, i always appreciate your time and perspective on the energy subject. thank you for the time this afternoon. erhc, one last question for you, when you look at the natural gas evidence that mr. pickens represents along with the alternative strategy is that more appealing to you than a drill, baby, drill strategy. >> point out is natural gas is still drill, baby, drill. so regardless if i...

The 18-wheelers. and that's 8 million trucks is what it is. the 18-wheelers would really help you. if if you go back and look at what the president said at the nomination when he accepted nomination in denver, he said, in ten years we will not be importing any oil from the mideast. here, you know if you're going to say that, you've got to have a plan. and the only plan that will work for us and work quickly is to use our own resource, which is natural gas. so say that we do get the natural gas into play and we do the 8 million 18-wheelers that would cut opneck half. that's 2.5 million barrels ...

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Tanks by this summer or this year or even the next few years i would consider it, but it won't. >> that -- and there are statistics to back the president up in that argument, which leads me to wonder about the politics of this, in whether this is just a ploy by the democrats to appear to be doing something in ahead of rising energy prices this summer in the midterm elections. >> well, dylan, and as that clip you showed just demonstrates, that was made during the summer last year when gas prices were climbing and people were saying, drill now and it will reduce gas prices. we all know that from...