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Interior had done a full environmental impact statement as it's required to do by law, the first thing it would have done was thrown out bp's drilling plan and sent it back to the drawing board. the plan is surreal, it is so lacking in details regarding safety and impacts on the environment. secondly, the department of interior would have had to have developed an environmentally preferred alternative, and lastly, it quite likely would have ended this whole process by choosing the no-action alternative, which is required in every eis, it would have said we're not going to allow bp to drill. it'...

>> let's start with the role of the secretary of interior, ken salazar. how would an environmental impact statement made any difference to this gulf spill? >> well, if the department of interior had done a full environmental impact statement as it's required to do by law, the first thing it would have done was thrown out bp's drilling plan and sent it back to the drawing board. the plan is surreal, it is so lacking in details regarding safety and impacts on the environment. secondly, the department of interior would have had to have developed an environmentally preferred alternative, and lastl...

>> well, if the department of interior had done a full environmental impact statement as it's required to do by law, the first thing it would have done was thrown out bp's drilling plan and sent it back to the drawing board. the plan is surreal, it is so lacking in details regarding safety and impacts on the environment. secondly, the department of interior would have had to have developed an environmentally preferred alternative, and lastly, it quite likely would have ended this whole process by choosing the no-action alternative, which is required in every eis, meaning it would have said we'...

Spill of national significance. >> at this point, the trajectory has the spill, leading edge of oil reaching landfall in mississippi delta region later tomorrow. >> the announcement made of secretary salazar about a five-year drilling plan is the beginning of a process. obviously what is occurring now will also be taken into consideration as the administration looks to how to advance that plan and what makes sense and what might need to be adjusted. >> reporter: is the managers reconsidering the policy on offshore oil drilling as the recovery evident really an effort to stop the oil slick, as ...

>> what's your answer? >> i haven't seen a strong-enough disaster plan put in place. we've asked for those resources. and hopefully they get out there as quickly as possible. because time is not on our side right now. >> last question for you -- a lot of talk about the need for an energy independence and the energy transition in this country. i don't care whether it's natural gas, oil, wind, i honestly could care less, as long as it's not from somebody that would like to kill us or has the leverage to mess with our independence. when you look at drilling specifically, though, and you look at t...