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What about, though, the fact that at that stage we're now in the early eighties, liverpool is run by a militant with a capital m. in other words, derek hatton of the militant tendency who was alienated from the labour party and the enemy of margaret thatcher. what do you make of him at the time? if you want to know what not to do in life, how not to run things in life, how not to behave in life, you know, he's the guy. i have nothing really good to say about him. and you came across him, though, once, didn't you? idid. they were opening a wine bar. jack's in huyton, and there aren't that many ...

They're a big piece of economics of our racing. they give us a piece of the media rights. what makes nascar unique is that we're still very reliant on corporate partnership. that makes our teams go. >> so the idea is that, you know, you help the sponsors by bringing in the folks and they have the big reach. everybody is a winner in that. as i wrap up, floyd may weather, his team had to qualify for the race sunday. they did so. the driver did that last night. he will have a driver in, michael jordan has a couple. who knows. maybe one of those celebrities will end up in victory lane. >> you can ...