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S in a prime example of what happens when you take on government special interests. they are looking for ways to come at us. they will continue to do it. they did it two years ago in the recall election. they will do it again. we have a tough election this fall. they will come at it with everything out there. >> walker says it's all spin coming from the left. prosecutors say there is a lot more to it. they say walker's top deputy, rj johnson, worked on the governor's 2010 recall campaign while also running an outside group, wisconsin club for growth. a hub that prosecutors allege was used to i...

Expenditures. so again, i would tend to think if laws are being broken and indictments will be forthcoming. >> and senator, i'd like you to characterize what you think of the e-mail that scott walker september to karl rove. to me it seems like he's begging for money. it's got a sales pitch written all over it. how would you characterize it? >> i think you're right. either that or he's defending rj johnson. obviously karl rove has concerns about what was going on back then. i don't know why karl rove would have concerns in state senate elections. i can understand why he would be consid concerne...

Status already had to sign an affidavit saying we will not engage in political conduct on behalf of a candidate. scott walker obviously is the candidate. they knew when they signed the affidavit they were limited on what they could do legally. this hasn't really been -- this hasn't been the major part of the case. but if you have somebody with a small 501-c4 coordinated with rj johnson and they know that the reason for the 501 c-4 should be limited to improving social and civic concerns and not being out front for a candidate, they know they've done that, at some point you know what happens, e...

Creation, giving families opportunities here in wisconsin. scott walker got really bad news that was sort of buried, 37th in the nation in job creation. within midwest we are in tenth plags out of ten states so the economy is really struggling here. scott walker's policies are not working and that's obvious just based on the numbers we saw yesterday. but in the meantime, mary burke continues to talk about the economy and bringing jobs back to wisconsin, which is what she should be doing. what we do need -- >> are you expecting charges to be filed? are you expecting charges to be filed against ...

Commercial they have to put a disclaimer on, they have to do that because collusion is illegal in wisconsin. rj johnson is both an agent in scott walker's campaign and agent of an independent expenditure. the fact we saw the governor e-mailing carl roefl talking about what was going on with the groups puts himself in the middle of it. there's no doubt that you are absolutely correct, the investigation is not over. it's ongoing and this investigation will continue to be ongoing until either charges are brought and people are indicted or the prosecutor says there's nothing here. everybody go hom...