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Exactly what's expected of me. >> she was very funny. she and i used to laugh all the time and she was very -- she was very feisty. she -- she would say what she meant. you know, she didn't mince a lot of words. >> reporter: as sisters they were ten years apart but according to amy, they were always close. >> you two look alike in the old photos. >> we do. >> you're ten years apart. >> i wore a lot of her hand me downs. >> reporter: nikki had been married and divorced twice and she and her young daughter alex were sharing an apartment with amy. >> we had a good time. we laughed putting up pict...

Answering questions about the e-mails? >> reporter: i think it's going to be one of her focuses. i also think strategically, take a look at what she did in the second debate. to some extent she tried not to get into extended back and forth with donald trump whether she d disagreed. go to the website. you will see the facts. tried to talk about her policy positions. the clinton campaign feels as though that is the way that they want to try to end this election, talking about the policies, the positive things that she's going to bring to the tau table. there's a broader sense that's getting lost...

Bizarre about this. because we're not talking about someone who's got this career in which they've got a whole bunch of different things they've done in the public eye and some were wins and some were losses. like i'm a filmmaker and i had some busts and i had some blockbusters. the reason people know who carly fiorina is before she ran for that senate seat, the reason she's famous is because she was the ceo of hewlett-packard. >> and -- >> that one job which she was either terrible at or not great at. >> right. and then as trump pointed out in the debate the other thing she-d the thing that g...

Wins and some were losses. like i'm a filmmaker and i had some busts and i had some blockbusters. the reason people know who carly fiorina is before she ran for that senate seat, the reason she's famous is because she was the ceo of hewlett-packard. >> and -- >> that one job which she was either terrible at or not great at. >> right. and then as trump pointed out in the debate the other thing she-d the thing that got her the job at hp is she ran this business called lucent which was a large division of at&t that was very hot when she ran it. it was a telecom equipment business and like a lot o...

Of, you know, they had a passion like that guy who, the continental breakfast at your hotel. they had no passion, and she d and i think that's what a lot of you are responding to? >> yeah, i think you're right. kennedy, she stood out. >> i called it on "outnumbered", the day before. she's been doing so much media. holding press conferences. taking questions. open-ended questions. not necessarily from audiences that she has curated. and i think that served her well. she learned from her political failure running for senate in california. she learned a lot from that. she learned what she was mis...