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Ejected prior in the game, including the quarterback, but there is no excuse for this. >> social media called this inexcusable, and the school said they will not tolerate this kind of behavior. they will be scheduling a due process hearing. watch as one player takes him down. the ref's collarbone was broken and he was eventually awarded a $275,000 settlement. seven states have lost particularly protecting sports officials. they said those laws and other strong punishments will help, but the problem needs to be dra addressed before that.

We can find a solution that is acceptable to everyone to make this a teachable moment and educational moment for what is seriously a flawed incident. >> steven jones represented timothy mcveigh and now representing sae. what is the objective here? attorney jones says this may be an issue of due process denied particularly in the case of oklahoma university richard, that expulsion happening before due process. is this a valid direction? >> you know fred mr. jones is a sophisticated, very bright attorney. and he knows, like we have talked about before for about $250 anybody can sue anybody. and ...

Of america and they do not what you or their lawyer would consider a fair due process hearing, it takes ten minutes and 30 seconds, okay, right? >>guest: depends on your idea of due process. >>stuart: should they be able to sue you that you did not conform to the terms of the contract? >>guest: in, that is rewarding bad behavior and violating the tenets of the secret service. in this case can they prevail in a civil lawsuit? no, the evidence is coming in against then. with respect to getting their job, if they were forced out, they have the evidence and a bunch people testifying saying what ha...

>> we substantial doubt firm on our principles that protecting student's privacy is important. while we hope to reach a settlement, we would be willing to have that due process hearing, a full hearing on this matter to be sorted out. we believe that, again, our pofgs is one that stands on principles for privacy. >> thank you for being here, sir. all the best to you. >> thank you. >> well, my next guest sees things very differently. richard, thank you for being here. he's an academic so he speaks in academic. but you could hear the point that he's trying to make. he's trying to be respectful of...