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On what you just said? >> i'm sorry? >> where's santorum on what you just said? did he agree with your right to do what you just said? to have your own orientation and to act on it? >> i believe senator santorum believes in that. where we disagree with is he believes, obviously, i should not have the right to marry, and i fundamentally disagree with him on that. >> no, doesn't he go further and say that you should not be allowed to be gay in any actual way? >> oh, absolutely not. >> doesn't he say that, pretty much? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> boy, i understand he says you have a rig...

The vote, are ron paul well behind in second place with 18 points. santorum, gingrich, and huntsman are all way back in single digits. so this is an early poll, coming right out of this, jonathan. it seems to me what's going to have to happen for this to be interesting, check me on this is, romney will get 35, at least, but if he's held to the 30s, and as you say, santorum pulls into the 20s, so it's 35/25, that's a big night for santorum, right? >> that's probably the best-case scenario for santorum. i think mark's right. i think romney's rivals need some luck. they need romney, neither a deb...

Republicans to beat president obama, but i'm, you know, but i'm not working for him. >> okay, well, that said, let's take a look at the head-to-head matchups with the top tier of republican candidates. president obama up against president obama, tied with mitt romney. basically 9 president beats newt gingrich handily by nine points. beats ron paul by eight points. there hasn't been enough polling on president obama. and rick santorum, head to head. so given all that, including the shocking fact, todd, that ron paul's within eight points of president obama, which is an amazing revolting develop...

You've got to have a little bit of levity and humor in this business or you'll go crazy. just tell dr. paul that i owe him a tweet in return and he should be expecting one sometime soon. >> well, no doubt that was a reference to those racially charged newsletters that came out under paul's name back in the '90s. wow. anyway, up next, we're going to get into the kerfuffle over president obama's recess appointment of richard cordray, next. no doubt the president's looking for a fight, but it's a fight he thinks he can win. is he right? the "hardball" strategists join us next. you're watching "...

Welcome back to "hardball." we've spent most of the show tonight talking about the republican versus republican fight, but ultimately, the winner is going to take on the guy living at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, whose team is watching everything, waiting and scheming. so let's bring in the "hardball" strategist for the first time in 2012 to talk about how the president might be gaming the big race coming up. joining me now is democratic strategist steve mcmahon and republican strategist todd harris. gentleman, i'm looking for sharp insight in this new year. the bar -- the standard has risen now....