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You notice the long projectile at the end. then, you're dealing with another dummy round. looks like the real deal. shiny, brand-new. and it has that silver circle that has a big dent in it, which indicates it's used, spent primer. if it had powder in it, it wouldn't go off. there's no ignition source. >> let me ask you something quick before i let you go, bill. thank you for taking time to come on with us. >> no problem. >> what do you think of the suggestion that you shouldn't be using real guns in a make believer endeavor in a motion picture? you have the technology now. and just the safety...

Member of the sound crew. but industry experts say only the armorer or prop master should be handling weapons on the set, not the assistant director. >> i will be honest with you, the a.d. would have a broken finger if he picked up a gun off my cart. that does not happen. >> armorer clay van sickle said the difference between a blank or live or dummy round is easy to spot. >> i would click through six times so everybody could hear nothing happens. it's literally that simple and it takes seconds and there's no reason not to do if 2. >> reporter: the veteran prop master said he sensed warning si...

Set is a dummy round. for all intentive purposes, this looks i dent kill to a real round. the only way you tell the difference is you, number one, shake it and when you shake it, it has bbs inside of it and they put the bbs inside of it instead of gun powder so you can audibly and physically feel that's a dummy round. any other time you look at that, it looks like a real bullet. you get those from reputable prop houses like iss, they make them and prep them and make sure there is no propel lengt whatsoever, one in the cartridge and the primer. both have to be removed so there is no chance of d...

Depends on what set you're working on and what relationship you have but at least two sources of verification the weapon is cold and at that point in time, the armorer would hold onto the weapon until it's time for the scene to be shot. at that time you open it, load it with the charges, be it either a live -- when i say live, i mean a blank round or if it's not going to discharge, a dummy round and at that point in time, right before the camera rolls, sound, you walk over there and hand off the weapon to the actor and then call hot weapon onset, which is repeated on the radio. >> but they sai...

Investigation's in the process and i'm sure they'll, you know, have a very detailed report. but for any professional armor, myself included, i would make sure any rehearsal, there is no sense in having anything in the weapon. not even a dummy round. >> you said you check it two sources. you look down the barrel with a flashlight. do you ever go out anywhere and clear it to make sure that it is -- it is clear? to shoot it. >> well, actually, there is no need to do that on this type of weapon. they are revolvers and they have got a very clear open cylinder. you can easily see inside of it and ma...