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Murder one, premeditation. but if they thought that he was not justified, they could have went down to second degree, which is the absence of premeditation or even manslaughter. they didn't do that. they hung as to that point. so it leads you to conclude that there were some jurors, we don't know the breakdown, could have been 11-1, 10-2, and we'll learn that eventually, i hope, if they come and speak to us. but you've got to think that there was some hang-up as to whether or not his fear was rational, reasonable, or not. and that's what it was. but i know one thing. there was no at all confus...

And it creates a mind-set, and the mind-set exists among the jurors that, hey, this guy has got a right to stand and fight, stand and defend himself. it's instructed. we hear about it in the press. it's very different from other states like new york, for instance, where you don't have that mentality. so you more likely to get a hung jury in florida than you would in new york on this fact pattern. >> so there you go, professor. that's law you're talking about. >> yes. >> and danny self al lose, is this a teachable moment, more about law or is this a teachable moment more about culture and what ...

I don't know what agenda they have. >> the case is over. but the judgment continues. while george zimmerman may have won his freedom, he will probably never be truly free. >> i have a lot of people saying that, you know, they guarantee that they're going to kill me and i'll never be a free man. i realize they don't know me. i've learned that. the majority of people when they sit down with me one-on-one are -- or with my family and i, they get a completely different perspective on me. . >> where you're somewhere and people recognize who you are, what do you do? >> smile. >> how often do they sm...

>> you were in the courtroom. >> yes. >> for jury deliberations. how does this dunn case affect the fight against stand your ground? >> well, the point is regardless of the outcome, it was always a feeling that we must change this law and we all must go to tallahassee and change it there. because even when you talk about the jury deliberation, part of it was in the instructions to the jury. stand your ground is a part of the instruction. whether it was discussed or not. it was in the zimmerman case. and so basically, it is part of the jury's instruction. and we must deal with it. it's too broa...

Trial saying it's a very confusing to the jury. so why do we have something on the books like that? and how do we sit there and allow this jury who the judge says may be confused. he had already read it one time. make a decision when you have a young man that lost his life. >> well, that's exactly it, reverend. shame on the state of florida. the law is confusing in every criminal case to begin with. and all lawyers, whether they be prosecutors or defense attorneys are well aware of this. but when you hamstring the prosecution with this self-defense law that basically confuses the jurors even f...