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Dying in our streets. >> bill: but in cities like new york, some other towns across the country, the murder rate is coming down. all right? it's not as bad as it used to be. >> right. >> bill: a variety of reasons for that. community policing, comstat, the gutter. computer. in chicago it's going the other way. there must be something in the windy city. is it gang, narcotic violence? is that's what's going on there, driving this stuff? >> gangs are part of it. wyou know, we have a new police chief now. three years that we're continuing to ignore nationally and locally is number one this prolife...

And poor people who can't get health care. so is that a waste? do we waste some money within that? we do. do we need to be very careful about it? we do. in the health care bill that we just passed, of course one of the major investments is to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in the health care programs. but they're right. it's an important consideration for us. we need to go after waste, fraud and abuse. >> that's a lot easier as both of you know, said than done. if we asked you that question, congressman cantor, how much of your taxes does government waste, would you say a lot, some or not mu...