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See live. >> anthony: right, right. >> penn: but you can never, ever see a magician any way but live. >> anthony: these days, for better or worse, live acts, live performers, are being squeezed out in favor of edm. electronic dance music. it's a dj's world and where once they used to say cocaine was god's way of telling you, you had too much money, now, maybe edm is. >> penn: we get invited to all the openings and new clubs. but i simply don't understand it, and i'm embarrassed that i don't understand it. >> anthony: are we just old? >> penn: i think that might be it. >> anthony: or are we non...

Live shows a year. and, if you see one or two live shows, you might as well see something that you could only see live. >> anthony: right, right. >> penn: but you can never, ever see a magician any way but live. >> anthony: these days, for better or worse, live acts, live performers, are being squeezed out in favor of edm. electronic dance music. it's a dj's world and where once they used to say cocaine was god's way of telling you, you had too much money, now, maybe edm is. >> penn: we get invited to all the openings and new clubs. but i simply don't understand it, and i'm embarrassed that i ...

>> anthony: are we just old? >> penn: i think that might be it. >> anthony: or are we non-douchey? [ laughing ] >> penn: i don't know. you want to spin it the latter, i'm afraid it might be the former. >> anthony: used to be a whole spectrum of entertainers who existed almost entirely in vegas. danny gans was huge here. wayne newton, they were gods. but, what's the big money draw now? this. ♪ come ye lords and princelings of douchedom. hear my clarion call. anointeth thyself with gel and heavenly body spray. maketh the sign of the devil horns with thyne hands, let there be the high-fiving an...

>> right. >> you can never, ever see a magician any way but live. >> these days for better or worse, live acts, live performers, are being squeezed out in favor of edm, electronic dance music. it's a dj's world. and where once they used to say cocaine was god's way of telling you you had too much money, now maybe edm is. >> we get invited to all the openings of the new clubs but i simply don't understand it. i'm embarrassed that i don't understand it. >> are we just old? >> i think that might be it. >> or are we non-douchy. >> i don't know. you want to spin it the latter. i'm afraid it might b...

>> right. >> you can never, ever see a magician any way but live. >> these days for better or worse, live acts, live performers, are being squeezed out in favor of edm, electronic dance music. it's a dj's world. and where once they used to say cocaine was god's way of telling you you had too much money, now maybe edm is. >> we get invited to all the openings of the new clubs but i simply don't understand it. i'm embarrassed that i don't understand it. >> are we just old? >> i think that might be it. >> or are we non-douchy. >> i don't know. you want to spin it the latter. i'm afraid it might b...