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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171118:11:35:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171118:11:35:00

"what -- what -- what are the consequences?" and i said, "well, in texas, i said, you know this is a death penalty kind of case." >> reporter: and then dylan spellman asked about a deal. >> normally any person that's innocent isn't gonna ask for a deal. you're gonna profess your innocence. and he wasn't. >> now i'm thinking, "this is my guy." >> reporter: so chavez asked spellman to take a polygraph and spellman agreed. >> and how does he do? >> he fails. >> reporter: time for handcuffs, you're thinking? not quite yet. chavez could put dylan spellman at the crime scene, but still had no way of...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:36:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:36:00

Him directly to the shootings. >> we had no gun. no usable prints. the only thing we have are cigarette butts, monster can and suspicion. >> it didn't help that his one eyewitness to the shootings could not identify spellman from a photo line-up. >> it was very hard because the suspects all looked the same. >> and then there was the matter of mr. spellman's height. >> he's big. >> he's what, 6'8". >> 6'8". >> remember christine said the shooter was quite a bit shorter than that, 5'8", maybe 5'9". >> for me it was always the difficulty of getting over the size. >> anything off the duct tape, an...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:34:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:34:00

And more things lining up with what we're looking for. >> for example. >> the use of numbers. >> remember christine had said the shooter referred to her and molly as girl one and girl two. >> he used numbers in that other crime. >> yes. they referred to each other by number in that particular crime. >> similarities between the two crimes didn't end there. >> in the nevada home invasion, was the victims bound. >> they were. >> he definitely jumped to the top. >> by that time dylan spellman had already returned to nevada to begin serving his three year sentence to chavez hopped a plane to las ve...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:57:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:57:00

Only been out of revenge for having his arrested as for those confidential details in the letter. >> this is small town texas, any number of places this kind of information could have come from. >> what about the lab report showing strickland's gun matching the shell casings found at the scene. >> we had our expert said it's inconclusive. there's no way you can say for sure. >> police they said should never have taken their sights off the real shooter. >> they had the right guy. >> dylan spellman, you think that's the killer. >> he's a better match than my boy. >> just failed a polygraph exam ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:58:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170930:09:58:00

Violence. >> it was sam smith who had the last word. dylan spellman might have been under suspicion, but ultimately had nothing to do with this crime. david strickland was the man holding the gun. >> shooting both of these girls for no identifiable reason at all. he certainly decided that. >> prosecutor smith neverle offered the jury a plausible motive. christine says she's sure it was about her sexual orientation. >> what's the reason you're thinking it was a hate crime. >> the letters he tried to send so my dad said something in the letter like those [ bleep ]less bee yans. >> this his inter...