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You get to "the sopranos" and all of a sudden, the villain is the hero. >> have some eggplant. >> i told you. i'm not hungry. >> now you won't even accept food from your own mother. >> "the sopranos" was david chase's invention about this mob family, something that people hadn't seen before. the idea that a mobster is seeing a therapist. >> what ever happened to gary cooper? the strong, silent type. that was an american. he wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. see, what they didn't know is once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they wouldn't be able ...

He wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they didn't know they wouldn't be able to shut him up. and then it's dysfunction this, dysfunction that. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like peter faulk as columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker. someone you can't imagine anyone else afterwards. james gandolfini is that as tony soprano. i think it's supposed to be a mob story. >> did you know that an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell is italian? >> s...

He wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they didn't know they wouldn't be able to shut him up. and then it's dysfunction this, dysfunction that. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like peter faulk as columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker. someone you can't imagine anyone else afterwards. james gandolfini is that as tony soprano. >> i think it's supposed to be a mafia story. >> did you know that an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell is italian? >...

They were breaking barriers. you get to "the sopranos" and all of a sudden, the villain is the hero. >> have some eggplant. >> i told you. i'm not hungry. >> now you won't even accept food from your own mother. >> "the sopranos" was david chase's invention about this mob family, something that people hadn't seen before. the idea that a mobster is seeing a therapist. >> whatever happened to gary cooper? the strong, silent type. that was an american. he wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. what they didn't know is once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings,...

That was an american. he wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. see, what they didn't know is once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they didn't wouldn't be able to shut him up. and then it's dysfunction this, dysfunction that. dysfunction fun-gu. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like peter falk as columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker. someone you can't imagine anyone else afterwards. james gandolfini is that as tony soprano. >> i think it's supposed to be a mafia story. but it's like i said -- >> it's n...