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Whether or not he informed his father, which would be a very big deal if he had is that in that meeting, and frankly, in the e-mail setting up the meeting, donald trump jr. is informed that the russians -- the russian government is backing, is behind his father's campaign for president, which is a huge deal for the campaign. the idea that donald trump jr. would hear that information and not convey it and that manafort would hear it and jared kushner would hear it, and nobody would convey it to donald trump, the candidate, just seems hard to imagine given the size of the campaign, kind of the w...

Father, which would be a very big deal if he had, is that in that meeting, and frankly in the e-mail setting up the meeting, donald trump jr. is informed that the russians -- the russian government -- is backing, is behind his father's campaign for president, which is a huge deal for the campaign. the idea that donald trump jr. would hear that information and not convey it and that manafort would hear it and jared kushner would hear it, and nobody would convey it to donald trump, the candidate, just seems hard to imagine, given the size of the campaign, kind of the way it was organized and how...

Solicit adverse information from a foreign power and then they get the clown act and giuliani says he didn't know they were russians. of course he knew they were russians. the e-mail setting up the meeting said they were representatives of the russians. >> do you see how this is going to play out? can you predict that? >> i predict it's going to be bad. to make a resignation deal takes a lot of contemplation, intelligence, good advice. i don't know that this president has those capacities. if he's going to rely on the likes of rudy giuliani then nothing good is going to happen.

There can be no side agreements. we make that clear in court and in writing. and so i still believe that mr. cohen may cooperate at some point, and i'm sure mueller would want it. of course, he would, if it's truthful and helpful. but i don't believe there are side agreements here. somebody who would know more about that practice in the southern district of new york than me would be dan goldman. but i suspect that mr. tribe may just be wrong about that point. >> and dan, when you hear the president on the no collusion front, we've just emerged from a 24-hour period with a lot of discussion abo...

But plea agreements in the federal system have to be the entire agreement. there can be no side agreements. let me make that clear in court and writing. and so i still believe that mr. cohen may cooperate, at some point, and i'm sure mueller would want it. of course, he would, if it's truthful and helpful. but i don't believe there are side agreements here. somebody who would know more about that practice in the southern district of new york than me would be dan goldman. but i suspect that mr. tribe may be wrong about that point. >> and, dan, when you hear the president on the no collusion fro...