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Lee Gibbs Depret-Brixio has been with the firm since 2003; she focuses on immigration, visa, and e-verify issues.

Th them the resources to fixed. >> we agree on that. >> fix it. truly, for example they made. >> i think that captures everything because you got wrapped up in that, this idea [inaudible] but they didn't give ins the that if you disagree with the resources to go look for these democrats and immigration that companies and they never truly gave border security piece. you don't care. >> ins, naturalization and immigration, they didn't have the point that you made is that these people have been sitting around and lecturing the agents to go into a everyone else and doing nothing to fix the problem....

Due process, just hide successfully for two years and you're gonna get something. >> just one thing you mentioned, e-verify. very briefly tell us the story of e-verify. that term is and a lot of these conversations. one was that first proposed. >> e-verify is not a foolproof tool. it can be beat if you take. [inaudible] but it does stop a lot of illegal aliens from getting employment. the problem is it works a lot of times but they need to make it mandatory. it's mandatory to pay taxes and pay unemployment tax and worker's comp. tax, if it's illegal for some of the illegal aliens to work in th...

That's just a fact. when you are giving amnesty you are rewarding illegal behavior. so the 12 or 20 million, how many are here right now including the family units in they are not leaving because they are waiting for the next daca. if youou hide out long enough fm the fed, they will give you something. so that was the problem in 1986. they tried to solve the problem but they sent a bad message to the rest of the world. come to the united states illegally, and if you are ordered removed. hide for several years and you will get something. steve: tell us the story of e-verify. when was that first...

Company? > absolutely. >> illegal employment in this country is a major driver where people come here. about we took that magnet away. as i.c.e. director i demanded an increase in enforcement 400%. e-verify needs to be man dated. why does anybody push back on e-verify? steve: in 1986, that led to the big increase in illegal immigration, this so-called reform. >> a couple things under 1986. they gave amnesty to the people who were here. steve: how many roughly were here? >> i think the number was around 7 million. but they thought it was going to give advantage to 600,000 that