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The reason we have not moved with a faster recovery he says. it's quite understandable. it's called arithmetic. if you want to cut the debt, you have to cut spending. big time. if you have to chop off government programs big time. what will he chop off? defense? are you kidding? he attacks obama for shrinking defense spending. chop off federal interest payments on the debt? can't do that it's called default. default is what we're afraid will happen in europe. what do you mean we can't pay what we owe? well, okay, eliminate social security and medicare benefits? can't do that. the government ow...

high school in chardon, ohio, that's near cleveland. one student dead, four others wounded. two of the wounded students are in critical condition, one is serious, and another is stable. yet another student showed a reporter from wkyc where one of the bullets grazed him. >> yeah, right here on my ear. i was actually -- as i was turning away from the gunman, he caught me right on the ear. >> reporter: how's your hearing, how close was he when he fired that shot? >> we were the table right next to him, he was within three feet of us. three of the victims were at my table as well. >> the...

>> and it's interesting turn of events and appears to be toxic to have been a member during the middle and end bush years. when they were thrown out of congress in 2006 and an incredible feeling among voters out there that they had lost their vision for why they'd gone to washington. forgot about reforming and all about earmarks and spending and why mr. santorum is so vulnerable on this issue. and it was because of a lot of the tea party's angst and the rise of the tea party is actually cleaning house within the g.o.p. so you don't want to be saeshd in that regard. >> and you're making a judgm...

Of events and appears to be toxic to have been a member during the middle and end bush years. when they were thrown out of congress in 2006 and an incredible feeling among voters out there that they had lost their vision for why they'd gone to washington. forgot about reforming and all about earmarks and spending and why mr. santorum is so vulnerable on this issue. and it was because of a lot of the tea party's angst and the rise of the tea party is actually cleaning house within the g.o.p. so you don't want to be saeshd in that regard. >> and you're making a judgment on santorum versus the al...

That record? >> it's a big one. one one of the realities, paul, a lot of the house members do not go on and win presidential nominations and it's because they have those records. what mr. romney has been doing very effectively is taking those 16 years of votes that mr. santorum has and using it to undermine his argument he's the real conservative in this race and painting him as a bush era big spender, and mr. santorum didn't necessarily needed to in the debate to disabuse voters of the idea. >> a very smart strategy on the part of romney. rick santorum was in the leadership and the senate, pr...