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Nato and russia and it would expand the conflict, prolong it. make it deadlier than it already is and that's not in the interest of our countries nor ukraine. we've heard the same message from the nato's secretary general. >> mr. secretary, first on venezuela. can you say whether they're considering easing sanctions on venezuela? and on sanctions in the end game. you mentioned foreign secretary that putin must fail. so, is it your strategy to essentially exert so much pressure on the russian people, oligarchs around vladimir putin so that russia will essentially, as undersecretary said, might

Anti-corruption actions back in -- >> there was and is, correct. >> what do you make, though, of those same republicans now silent in the wake of trump's attacks on biden? >> well, i'm an expert on foreign policy. i do obviously pay attention to our own politics. i understand the reason for your question and i think it would be good if people spoke out, but my understanding is -- >> people being republicans? >> all those who were involved in our policy process. i would simply add something that's very important. my understanding is that republicans, especially in the senate, were in touch with...

U.s. would try to help saudi arabia and defend saudi arabia from conventional attacks in particular but makes this quite difficult is that this is hack is actually create a symmetric in nature and it's been very difficult to. show exactly how it is tied to iran which has led to a little bit of reticence on all sides to respond because it's unclear what taper of response would be proportional and what should be done but it's likely that the u.s. is going to try and shore up saudi security as best as best it can last week we were talking about something very different a possible fall in the rain...

More on these hints of dramatic changes i'm joined tonight here at the big table by hassan money on his son is currently a research fellow at the iran project at harvard university he's also professor of middle east studies at the university of tehran and science good to have you on the show tonight what do you make of these reports that the u.s. president is considering easing sanctions if iran abides by the nuclear agreement. of course the the portrait of walton as a part is a positive new story of mom but the policy of maximal pressure as pump aoe and men secretary minot and spoke about is ...

Favored this approach. >> you mentioned the president easing sanction. that's the thing kim really wants. north korea sees its nuclear arsenal the key to its own survival. help us understand that asymmetry. what is left to negotiate if north korea we know won't give up its weapons and the president seems to at least be considering easing sanctions. >> well, we know that president trump is looking for a foreign policy win, and he considers north korea the achievement of his presidency thus far in having this level of engagement to convince the regime to entertain the idea of diplomacy, and we a...