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Although the president has said he needs to go. >> i think it's one of the elements of state craft that becomes very hard for americans and others to understand is why can't we just say what we really mean. and that is because it has an echo effect far beyond the silo of just dealing with libya. we have equities and relations with other nations and don't want to send help signals that they're next in line for us to help them topple. >> is it most challenging within the arab world, is that the area where the united states has the greatest concern about reaction if not retribution? >> i think if...

What we had in iraq, in fact. there are very different situations in yemen. egypt was more homogenous. yet, is there some sort of dynamic here, where there is an infection of democracy? >> well, again, we shouldn't call it an infection or a contagion, that's something you apply to disease. >> not being pejorative. >> we like freedom and the spread of freedom. it's clear the arab world is watching egypt, and people are saying, if the egyptians, why not us, and that's what's playing out in iran, for example. but i think it is not only the arab world that is watching. what about the people of cub...

>> three million dollars for this ad space is on top of the cost that it takes to make these ads. is it really worth it? >> as long as its a good ad, i think it is. i think that the -- all the buzz that you're getting before the game, during the game you have over 100 million eyeballs on that ad. it's america's last campfire. the last thing we have left in our culture where everybody is gathering together. they are watching something at the exact same time and experiencing the exact same emotions and they can talk about that together. and the echo effect that happens online after the game. i t...

Communism, et cetera. >> where do you draw the line between what needs to be scrubbed? what do you decide not to repudiate? do we know where that line is? >> that line has been obliterated. that's the key lesson here of her being the nominee. that line has been totally obliterated. ben smith on politico reporting that the earlier reviews on her meeting in new york was that she killed, totally wowed them. there's this weird kind of moving together of the sort of barrens of the party with the establishment with the grassroots chls they're jumping off this crazy right wing cliff together. i don't...

An international communist conspiracy, et cetera. >> where do you draw the line between what needs to be too kooky and must be scrubbed and what just makes you a bona fide 2010 republican? what do you decide not to repudiate? do we know where that line is? >> that line has been obliterated, i think. that's the key lesson here of her being the nominee. that line has been totally obliterated. ben smith on politico is reporting that the earlier reviews on her meeting in new york was that she killed, totally wowed them. there's this weird kind of moving together of the sort of pairens of the party...